Who is eulogy about
I had to read the lyrics again to make sure I was singing them correctly in the shower but it's clearly a position taken on Scientology. Also I think it's odd that the auto fill capitalized Scientology, it's a cult like the rest of these "organized religions".
We're monkeys that lost our tails and learned to fuck facing one another. Deal with it. When I was in 8th grade right now I had a friend who left my group. And this was before I heard this song. When I heard this song it told me what was gonna happen and if he was gonna come back or not which he is.
Who knows if Maynard went through this same experience?? That's funny- don't really think that Maynard has to think as much as you assholes-you're reading way too far into it- it's about Henry Rollins and his big ass mouth, not Jesus - get a life.
I believe this song is about all of the people who preach about how we all sin, which is true, but they point their finger at very person, everything, but their own heart. Most of those people tell us the only way to rid of your sin is to try to live as Jesus did, by being willing to die for someone else or for what's right. But those people who preach this most likely won't die for you or for what's right. So those people don't want us to step out of line and sin, by lieing, cheating, stealing ect, but it's our nature, and that includes even the most highly thought of, of people.
Also I think this song tells those preachers to get off the "cross" if they are not willing to die for others or what's right. But this is just my take on the whole song others may disagree and that's ok, everyone thinks differently. Most of you are just wrongheaded and wrong. It's an ironic and sometimes sarcastic tome for bill hicks who died from cancer a month before cobain killed himself. No one paid much attention to hicks, whom the band respected as a genius commentator on life and its bullshit, which he was, but instead of giving hicks the respect he deserved, all the dumbshit fucktards out there freaked out about cobain, who had nothing like what hicks had.
Thus the irony. Cobain got all the attention hicks should have gotten, just to prove hicks right about who people give their adoration to--those who don't deserve it, because most people are ignorant lemmings. Fuck cobain for stealing hicks' time of mourning. Rip bill hicks. After I listened to this I thought it was a song against Christianity and how Jesus Christ died for our sins. And I was a little torn being a Christian and loving the song. Im surprised after reading this forum that Im not alone in feeling this way.
I am relieved to see that was not the intended meaning for this song. Thanks for all the posts. This is ridiculous.
It's about Hubbard and his Scientology bull. Read the lyrics and grow a brain. Or don't, and succumb to religions in your idiotic lives. Login Register Login with Facebook. All lyrics are property and copyright of their owners. All lyrics provided for educational purposes only.
What does Eulogy mean? Login Create Account. Tool : Eulogy Meaning. Tagged: Death [suggest]. But the "weird that I'll miss him" line tells us also that there's really still no hard feelings e. In other words, when Tool was around this guy, they couldn't wait to get rid of him, but now that he's gone, its "weird", but kinda miss the guy.
My long-standing interpretation: This song is about Paul D'Amour. It has to be. It all fits. I look forward to hearing any of your comments, friends. Last edited by tbrent21; at PM.. Reason: Forgot to edit title. Maynard may have claimed that, but it's 99 percent likely he was joking. As for your rant, different people have different opinions. Having a self-righteous attitude such as that isn't going to further anything. Hmmm Thats a good theory.
I had never really thought about it being about paul. Timothy leary always came to my mind when I listened to this song, I dont know why but it made sense to me. But now that I've read your post the whole him hearing his eulogy doesnt really make sense to me now. Everybody has their right to their own interpretations but I still cannot see the explanation for the people who think the song is about Bill Hicks.
The Alien Gus. The big question: Who is "Eulogy" about? The song is primarily about the death of something which most probably turned out to be a fake. If you think about it, which makes more sense: that Tool is eulogizing a dead person who turned out to be a fake so what? Two more clues that they are addressing Paul D'Amour.
When Tool expresses regret that they were mistaken when they thought this person "seemed to feel the same" as they do, there is also a reference that they mistakenly thought this person was "prepared to lead the way.
Tool's theme of "standing above the crowd" and leading the way to enlightenment has been a theme of theirs from the beginning. From "Opiate" the song "what you need is someone strong to guide you, like me" all the way through "Schism" and "Lateralus" "bring the pieces back together, rediscover communication", "ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been".
The person they are addressing in "Eulogy" seemed to be prepared to stand above the crowd and lead the way with them, but it was just a facade. Thus, Paul, "so long. I take that to mean that the song -- the scathing eulogy -- is the crucifixition referenced. In other words, for your sins and your lies, "goodbye" and for your sins and your lies, "we can't just let it go -- there has to be some closure.
So we say, 'you must be crucified', so the whole world knows. Last edited by tbrent21; at AM.. I know, when I write my poetry, I sometimes have multiple influences for the one poem and people who read it will say, "Who's that about?
Just putting it out there. Picture this if you will I agree that Paul seems to be the most likely, however if you add a bit of poetic lisence to the lyrics you will see that it still could be anyone. I think Bill Hicks is an outside chance, with some tounge in cheek lyrics. Think about MJK being angry somewhat at Hick's passing when he died from a disease probably brought on by his past massive drug use. He is frustated that Hicks passed on so early when he could have accomplished a lot more in his life.
And yes, the person can be dead if you assume that MJK believes the dead can still hear what is going on. Anyway, outside chance. After reading the lyrics once more in the first post, I've even more convinced that Eulogy is about Christ.
I think Maynard isn't being sincere at all; he's mocking Christ in every possible form he can Members of Tool, including Maynard, have said this song is not about Jesus. If you relate it to Jesus, that's fine. Last edited by troutp; at PM.. Sorry, but I kinda see that as a lazy interpretation, I mean the "not all martyrs" line, its just one line in the song. There's alot more to this song. There definitely is the use of religious allegory in this song. How it all fits together is a tough riddle.
But the "ranting" and "you sure could yell" stuff, if its about Jesus and its just being sarcastic, its kinda dumb sarcasm. Tool is anything but dumb. I think we're dealing with someone who really did yell and rant and point their finger and piss them off. On the comment earlier that someone sees an outside chance this was addressed to Bill Hicks -- so many reasons this can't be about Bill Hicks, where do you start.
But number one being, "no way to recall what it was you said to me, like I care at all. The last thing they would say about him is "what the fuck it was you were ranting about, I have no idea nor do I really give a shit to remember. Yes but any interpretation has its problems. Okay so it is about Paul? Then wtf is with all the "you said all this time that you would die for me". That doesn't really fit, unless Paul D'Armour is this full on guy who tells members of his band how much he would die for them I agree with you completely, that any interpretation has some problems.
There are specific parts that no one but Tool themselves could fully explain. For example, in my Paul D'Amour interpretation, is "the next fool martyr" Justin? And, I really don't know what they are talking about when they say "don't you step out of line!
I don't see anything that directly contradicts my theory, I guess. I also remember in the first interview Tool did before Laturalus came out MJK said that because of his work with APC Laturalus was the first album to have songs written musically before the lyrics were layed. A little tenuous, perhaps, but this would suggest that Paul was around after MJK had written the song. I did admit in my last post that the one part that perhaps made my theory less likely was the "next fool martyr" line.
Hey, ease off though, if I present a theory of what this song is about that comes within one measly line of making sense, it deserves a little bit of kudos IMHO. The guys that are off base are those who just follow what they understood Maynard to say about the song in an interview, or just read the "Tool FAQ" or whatever the hell that is, rather than examine the lyrics themselves.
Well anything's possible, including that Justin is the next fool martyr that is referred to. The way I thought of it this morning kinda fits -- to become a talented a band as TOOL has become, they certainly probably have had to sacrifice alot. I mean was Picasso well-rounded? Probably not. He sacrificed to become what he became. So Justin, welcome aboard, fool. You will gain alot, but who you were before this, well, its gone. This could be the reference to martyrdom.
What have they given up to dedicate themselves to their craft? We know from their level of musicianship that they've reached new heights. I'm sure they sacrificed a hell of a lot for their cause. And part of their cause being the bringing of a kind of consistent philosophical message to their listeners. Therefore its not a terrible stretch to think of that as akin to martyrdom as often referred to in the religious context.
Tool performed this song with Paul D'amour Eulogy: "this song is about martyrs" so yeah i do think this song COULD be aboutHubbard now that i think about it, but for so many years i tried to tie this song down to have one specific target bill hicks, hubbard, even kobain but now i believe this song is just about anyone in general who uses martyrdrom osama, etc as a weapon, or a way to brainwash people. One thing is true i must agree that it is not about Jesus. It may just be a mystery for us.
Last edited by Drawn Under; at PM.. Reason: wrong section. I agree, there is no way this song is about Jesus. If anything I think this song actually makes Jesus out to be legitimate compared to the person they are describing.
On many levels they mock their subject for pretending to be like Jesus when they truly are not. This is why the Hubbard comparison works so well. Also I do not think that Tool has to know the person individually just because they say "So long, wish you well. Definition of eulogy. Synonyms for eulogy Synonyms accolade , citation , commendation , dithyramb , encomium , eulogium , homage , hymn , paean , panegyric , salutation , tribute Visit the Thesaurus for More.
Choose the Right Synonym for eulogy encomium , eulogy , panegyric , tribute , citation mean a formal expression of praise. Elegy vs. Eulogy Both elegy and eulogy may be used about writing or speech in remembrance of a person who has passed away, and this semantic overlap creates the potential for confusion.
Eulogies Aren't Only for Funerals With its -logy ending, eulogy means literally something like "good speech". Examples of eulogy in a Sentence He delivered a moving eulogy at his father's funeral. John Lewis D-Ga. First Known Use of eulogy 15th century, in the meaning defined at sense 1. Learn More About eulogy. Time Traveler for eulogy The first known use of eulogy was in the 15th century See more words from the same century.
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